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Grand Theft Auto 4 Should 14-year-old Be Able to Play? I'm with Mom: "No!"

By May 2, 2008

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One mom seeks advice: At 2 PM at work, I received a call from the assistant principal that my middle school 8th grade son had "purchased" a copy (for $70.00) of a violent video game "Grand Theft Auto 4" ("GTA4" ) that was very recently released (it's April 30, 2008, as I type this) from a classmate whose mother purchased 4 copies for him to distribute to his paying friends at school. No, my son does not have his copy yet - the middleman boy was out sick today. Yes, I have called the mom of the distributor and told her to keep the copy and my son is out $70 bucks- his tough luck! My husband called the dad of the middleman and also told him our son was not to get his copy.

I am mortified because I do not approve of the content of any of the Grand Theft Auto videogames. My husband told me that I am a hypocrite because I permitted my son to have Call of Duty which is WWII soldiers at battle. However, I think there is a difference between a moral war, WWII, and thugs beating people and raping and murdering prostitutes in a senseless virtual world,

Questions: Is anyone letting their 14 yr old son or daughter have access to this game; My understanding is that, due to the mature "M" rating, a parent must accompany a teen (age 18 or less) and sign a release.

Denise's thoughts: I agree completely with what you did. That game is fine for those that are adults and want to play it. Personally, it's not allowed in my home - adults or kids.

I commend your son's school, what a great job they did keeping you informed!

High quality video games should try and have some high quality family values(here's why) - but I guess that is 'too hard to market'. It just frustrates me to see how fast these things sell and to hear that the other won't. It's simply not true. High School Musical is awesome and more teens were into that then this game. Look at American Idol contestant, Jason Castro. Dreads, sure, that's cool and teens like it. But this college student has high moral fiber. Says in a video interview, "I find the most joy in helping other people and serving. That's where I find value." The tide is turning for the better and values are becoming the 'in thing' for our kids. The people who make these games should take notice.

So, good for you! It's great to see parents standing up for what is morally right for their children and defending their own family values.

From our community of parents: What do you think of these violent video games being used by teens? Is your teen's school this good at communication with you? Share in the comments area.

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Comments
May 2, 2008 at 11:00 am
(1) Mark says:

It’s your right to decide as a parent. I have seen the game myself so, to give you an idea of what the content is like,there is plenty of foul language and violence. It’s about on par with what you would see in a gangster movie or The Sopranos.

14 is a little young I think but if your son is allowed to watch HBO he can handle it. Different families have varying attitudes; when I was a kid I was going to rated ‘R’ movies with my parents when I was 6 years old, but some of my friends were banned from violent movies until they were old enough to drive.

May 5, 2011 at 7:57 am
(2) chinmay says:

my son’s age is 16 and he brought the game grand theft auto 4 and he called up the costummer care number beacuse a problem of graphichs card and they asked wath is you age he said he is 16 so they recommended me not to leat him play the game beacuse it contains bad language and videos.so I want to say is please dont let your children below 18 years to play grand theft auto 4 to play

May 2, 2008 at 11:27 am
(3) GTA4 Lover says:

There should never have even been a question about if its ok for a 14 year old to play. The answer is no. Theres a reason why its rated ‘M’. This is up to the stores to not sell the game to the kids and for parents to take the game away if they somehow got it.

But some parents actually want to stop the game from selling at all. Why? This affects those of us that enjoy GTA4. If you don’t like it, don’t buy it. Its that simple.

Also, I think alot of the individuals critizing it heard the part about sex, drugs, etc. and immediately judges the game before ever researching the facts or trying out the game first prior to making a conslusion.

My tip to those who judge is to don’t judge a book by its cover. Play it and you will see why there is such a huge fan base. The game has great stories, Awesome gameplay and harilious moments.

May 2, 2008 at 11:41 am
(4) mary says:

This game should of not been but out on the market in the first place.It shows
young children and young adults how to
shoot people or how to steal a car and
take it into the real world.

April 19, 2011 at 9:57 pm
(5) J says:

I disagree most people probably knwo the standard of stealing a car but, thats a different topic how does a game that has a controller teach you how to shoot and I have done shooting as a hobby and guns are much harder to use thatn they appear.

August 9, 2011 at 11:51 pm
(6) BallasVSGroveStreet says:

I agree with this i shoot guns(at a range, with adult family member supervision) and I’m only 13. I frequently play violent games and have played GTA 4 about 5 times, and i have absolutely never had a though about turning the gun and shooting everyone i see.

May 2, 2008 at 11:48 am
(7) SS says:

I have GTA 4 and it’s definitely not for a 14 year old. This game is about freedom. The stuff they talk about on the news about how you beat innocent people to death and kill cops, is a choice. The extreme stuff they talk about on the news has nothing to do with the storyline.
The makers just wanted the game to be like the real world. In real life we all have choices, but the consequences of the actions is what keeps us from making some choices. Anyone who does something from the game in real life, already has problems and would have done something anyway.
I do, however, still believe that anyone who is not an adult should not play this game because the storyline isn’t exactly squeaky clean either.

May 2, 2008 at 11:50 am
(8) Chuck says:

This game is a huge disappointment for the gaming industry and games like that make it a point to put out material even with the M rating that exploits the evil things of the world and make it a game for KIDs. And the parents who allow this in their homes and know the content should be taken to parenting classes and see the effects of what this type of exposure does to our kids. They experience enough in schools and on their walks home from school that we dont need to let them see the violence and mayhem that this game gives. Then to exploit the neighborhoods and towns that some of us live in (urban) just further gives off a sense thats the way it is and it isnt going to change. I HATE THI GAME!!!!!!

April 27, 2011 at 10:23 pm
(9) logan says:

Ok first of all the game is rated M for mature. This is not a game for kids. And second if your kid does not even have the common sencse to figure out the difference between a videogame and real life there are problems there. Third the game is not a huge disappointment for the gaming industry, millions of people enjoy the game and i think it was rated one of the top games of 2009. I understand that you may hate the game but thats your choice,

May 2, 2008 at 12:01 pm
(10) Maggie says:

You people are idiotic. esp. the one saying it shows ppl how to shoot and steal a car. You can learn the from anywhere, not just a game. I started playing GTA3 when I was 14, I’m 20 now. I never committed a violent crime, or even attempted to. Why? Because I knew it was fake. Also my parents did a good job in parenting to let me know what’s real, what’s fake, and mostly what the consequences are. So if your dumb kid goes out and committs based off a video game, I think you need to have better parenting skills. Don’t blame it on a game when they can simply all watch this on tv. Do you know how dumb it sounds to blame this crap on a game? It’s fake, and it’s fun. Get over the violence. Your kid should know that the game is fake and not to take thins from it seriously. If they do take things seriuosly well where the hell have you been at to teach your kid? Lol and chuck and you might want to grown a brain. If they want to let their 14 yr kid play it that’s fine, because the kid should know it’s fake. Parenting classes are for the parents who let their kids play this game and then the kids are dumb enough to committ acts because their parents didn’t teach them right from wrong and real and fake. I feel sorry for your kid Chuck. Wake up. This is 2008, there’s violence everywhere. Stop getting stuck in the 1920s. I think your kids are old enough to handle violece. It’s not the games fault, it’s the parents fault for being stupid and not teaching their kids. So stop blaming a video game.

October 13, 2011 at 5:32 pm
(11) Brock Duggan says:

Maggie is right I think you all are over reacting it is simply a game it could never cause anyone harm you dont have to be 17+ to know it is not real.

May 2, 2008 at 12:40 pm
(12) Angela says:

Absolutely unacceptable. and I would think certain comments above would show that while perhaps not having commiting any crimes, certainly a lack of respect, insulting nature and general derision might perhaps be attributed to the “parents fault for being stupid and not teaching their kids”

Games such as this have rating for a reason and the nature of thig game alone should have anyone question why even someone that CAN legally purchase this game, would actually have a need to?

May 2, 2008 at 12:47 pm
(13) Leslie says:

I agree with Angela. The desensitization of people who play these games to violence, manners and respoect is obvious. I think we just saw a great example.

May 2, 2008 at 12:47 pm
(14) Brenda says:

No, I would not let a 14 year old play it or have it in my home. (He’s 15 now and still does not, but I do let him have some teen games.) What Maggie and other young people don’t realize is that even thought there is violence in the world and you don’t really have to look hard to find it, is that the more you look at it, the more it hurts your own spirit, and the harder the shell you form in response. Our relationships to fellow humans is what makes us different from other animals, and the harder we become, the less we can care what happens to others.

What about the child who was selling these at school? I can’t imagine our school finding that acceptable. He should be spoken to, along with his mother, and I feel that the mother is wrong to knowingly assist children in overriding the wishes of their own parents. I would question what would make her want to assist in such a thing.

May 2, 2008 at 1:57 pm
(15) parentingteens says:

Hi Leslie and Angela, I was going to delete the comment you are talking about, but I see that it is a good example, so it’s staying ;-)

May 2, 2008 at 2:37 pm
(16) DOROTHY says:

I BELIEVE TEENS AND YOUNGER KIDS TODAY HAVE ENOUGH IN SOCIETY THAT VIDEO GAMES WITH THESE VIOLENT ACTS ARE NOT NEEDED. WE NEED TO ENCOURAGE OUR KIDS O GO OUTSIDE AND PLAY BASKETBALL, BASEBALL, SOCCER, OR SOMETHING. MY SON IS 21 AND I HAVE PROBLEMS WITH SOME OF THE TEEN RATING ON THE GAMES. HE RESPECTS HOW I FEEL AND DOES NOT BRING IT INTO THE HOUSE OR PLAY IT ANYWHERE ELSE. VIOLENCE IN SOCIETY IS SO STRONG THAT ENCOURAGING TEENS OR CHILDREN TO BE VIOLENT IS NOT WHAT WE AS PARENTS ARE FOR. WE NEED TO HELP OUR CHILDREN DO FOR OTHERS AND ALSO HELP OTHERS WITH HEALTHY BOUNDARIES. MOST TEENS AND YOUNG ADULTS MAY NOT WANT TO DO THIS, HOWEVER IF WE INSTILL IN THEM WHEN THEY ARE YOUNG AND LET THEM KNOW WHAT VIOLENT BEHAVIOR CAN LEAD THEIR LIFE TO BE, THEY HAVE A BETTER SENSE ABOUT WHO THEY ARE AND WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO AS THEY GET OLDER.

May 2, 2008 at 2:58 pm
(17) Angela says:

parentingteens,

funny thing that,isn’t it? :+) I’m sure it wasn’t the writer’s intention though and surely won’t make them happy.

May 2, 2008 at 3:01 pm
(18) Ryan says:

In response to Angela, Leslie, and Brenda I would have to disagree. I think Maggie had a very great point just shouted it out all wrong. I my self am 23 years old and have been playing GTA since 1997, witch would make me 12 years old when I first played it. Yes back then the “realism” was far behind what it is now but the facts still remain, yes its violent and yes it has sex, drugs, drinking and some unmoral natures…but the fact that its a fictional world also remains. I have never stolen a car, done drugs, never even got an “F” in school; also never spoke with a lack of respect to anyone. But yet I was 12 when I started playing. If a child was thought, or not, what is bad or good, right or wrong, he/she should know just out of pure common since that in the REAL world this isn’t the right way to act. What there trying to do is give you a chance to blow off some steam by doing things, that in the REAL world is unacceptable, you would never do! Even though you might get in a car chase or kill some people you don’t have to, Drink, have Sex, Kill innocents to beet the game it remains a choice to do so with real consequences after that does show the true ending of that life. Believe it or not but in the game Niko, the protagonist in the game, often states that he doesn’t want to kill people but is forced to do so in order to save is own life. Always he denounces the use of drugs and when offered, refuses to use them. In conclusion I think the game does teach a lot of good morals. It shows if you do decide to live this life you will end up in prison or dead, one or the other. I haven’t gotten to the end of GTA4 yet but in all past games the protagonist has always been killed. So with that I would have to say if I had a SMART 14yr old I would let him/her play this game, but no younger then id say 11-12 yrs old. Any younger then that then yes there would be big problems with confusing Games and Real world. But first make sure your little one is mentally stable for this. If he/she has issues already with that confusion then this game is for sure not for them. Any sociopaths, people with Depression, Maniac Behavior, Schizophrenia, or Obsessive Compulsive Disorders should stay clear of this game until 18 or older, shoot maybe never! And that’s my 2 cents…any comments?

May 2, 2008 at 3:09 pm
(19) Angela says:

Ryan, certainly you have presented yourself in a much clearer manner. However, I respectfully still disagree, there is far too much real violence and the correlation to these types of games is ther, Columbine is an example. Disturbed or not, this is what happens, access is allowed regardless of ratings apparently and perhaps that is where the responsibility truly lies, in the distributors of these games (and I use that word VERY loosely).

I guess I just do not understand the mind of a teen that feels the need for such bloodthirst, that in itself is most disturbing.

Thank you for calmly presenting your point of view.

May 2, 2008 at 3:10 pm
(20) Angela says:

Oh, and Ryan? check back when you are a parent (an assumption that you are not I realize) and see if anything has changed.

May 2, 2008 at 3:32 pm
(21) Michael says:

What I think we’re all losing site of here is that the average age of the US gaming consumer is 32. 32! I should know- I spent 3 years working in the marketing department of a small US gaming publisher. Any talk of banning or censoring a game that is marketed to and, ultimately, purchased disproportionately by adults over the age of 18 is preposterous.

Furthermore, I’ve played this game. It’s mind-blowingly rich. The main character is a product of the ethnic conflicts in former Yugoslavia and he is genuinely remorseful about his part in it and what those years have made of him. His criminal dealings in his new life are approached with frustration and a growing sense of revulsion as the game moves along. In some ways, he’s a very likeable, but very broken, man- and the game demands a great deal of empathy for him.

This is an adult game. Moral and ethical dilemmas abound and easy answers are hard to find. I wouldn’t necessarily let my 14 year old watch The Godfather either, but I’d highly encourage he/she watch it once they turned 18. Why? It’s a masterpiece of American storytelling with all the trappings- freedom, family, success, love, allegiance- that have served the American narrative since its inception.

And so is GTA4. It is a great piece of American art- a satire of the highest order disguised as cheap entertainment. A warped fun-house mirror reflecting ourselves and our world back to us. For those of you worried that this game will lead your children down a path of moral decay, I’d say this- if you’re doing due dilligance as a parent helping delineate between fantasy and reality, this game will have absolutely no bearing on their development whatsoever.

May 2, 2008 at 3:44 pm
(22) Kelly says:

I agree,, it should not be sold at all! My brother may play it at school but I know it will not be in this house. If he does play it (which I don’t think it’ll be allowed at school either) will ask him a dozen questions about what he thinks, etc. As parents, we need to fight for our kids as well as for the future of society! Boycott the video!

May 2, 2008 at 3:46 pm
(23) Angela says:

Jim said “So the parents posting on this chat board blasting GTA 4 need to post on every single chatboard about each rated R violent movie that comes out and every new music album that degrades women or talks about killing.”

I agree Jim and I do! and my children are learning right from wrong as well.

May 2, 2008 at 3:59 pm
(24) michael says:

Kelly- I believe Hitler was also fighting for the children and future of German society when he went about “boycotting” dangerous books and ideologies in 1930′s Germany. Targets of said boycott- Hemingway, Brect, Helen Keller to name a few. Americans- be careful of the slippery slope when you decide to ban or boycott something- one day that something might just be you.

May 2, 2008 at 4:20 pm
(25) Mike R says:

While i agree that a 14 year old shouldn’t be playing this game, you sound so much like a hippie that i cant help but disagree with you and [edited - keep it respectful!]

May 2, 2008 at 4:30 pm
(26) Angela says:

a hippie, who sounds like a hippie and what is your definition of a hippie?

because the true meaning of a hippie is the eact opposite of the point I believe you are trying to make:
hippie”
a person, esp. of the late 1960s, who rejected established institutions and values and sought spontaneity, direct personal relations expressing love, and expanded consciousness, often expressed externally in the wearing of casual, folksy clothing and of beads, headbands, used garments, etc.

May 2, 2008 at 4:43 pm
(27) michael says:

I think he was referring to me- although I’m not sure he read my previous post trumpeting the game’s artistic merits. Then he’d REALLY dislike me. :)

PS- I’ve never worn beads. I do own a pair of corduroy pants, however.

May 2, 2008 at 5:15 pm
(28) Angela says:

Michael,

ROFL

(cords are back, BTW!!!)

May 2, 2008 at 5:45 pm
(29) ev says:

what does it matter if the game is violent no worst than the movies. reality is theres violence everywhere so weather its in a game or the movies we will never get away from violence the world is full of violence look in the paper or on the news.no point getting upset about it. I wish are world was”nt full of violence but that life and reality.

May 2, 2008 at 6:35 pm
(30) Kevin says:

first off i am not a parent, i am a 19 year old college student and i love video games. this game is no worse than movies, or even some tv shows. Its up to the parents to decide if there kid is mature enough to play. IT SHOULD NOT BE BANNED! ITS SAYS MATURE ON THE BOX AND WHAT IS IN IT. Some say well it teaches you how to steal cars and shoot people…. uh so do movies, tv shows, the internet, all easily accessable… Take – Two the maker of the game said that this game is not meant to be played by people under 17… all you people who think games should be banned need read all sides of a story, open your mind a bit and relize games arent the problem, its the parents.

May 2, 2008 at 6:41 pm
(31) Angela says:

the question was “Grand Theft Auto 4 Should 14-year-old Be Able to Play”?

the side-step to banning is the forest through the trees. Should a 14 year old be able to play? Legally they cannot purchase it with its M rating, so that should be the answer right there. should an adult choose to buyt it for them, that’s a whole other issue.

May 2, 2008 at 7:20 pm
(32) parentingteens says:

Just reminding those teens or young adults that are posting to keep it on topic, or your post goes *poof*. If you want to talk about the merits of the game, go to a gaming site. This post is about letting a 14yo play it.

May 3, 2008 at 7:36 am
(33) Chantal says:

Quite frankly it is a bit ridiculous. This woman will let her son have one killing game that is rated M for mature, but not another video game rated M because the content for that one (GTA4) offends her and the other (Call of Duty) doesn’t?? Seems like her decisions are not based on what her son should be accessing at 14, but what her prefence is or what type of violence she is ok with!!

Parents need to learn to think of their children PERIOD!! Regardless of their own preference of/for violence!

May 3, 2008 at 2:41 pm
(34) Elizabeth says:

I think the ESRB does an excellent job with its ratings, which are much more detailed and helpful to parents then the MPAA or RIAA. The game is meant for people ages 17 and up just like R rated movies.

Not ever child is the same and thus parents should try to use their digression when it comes to media their children are exposed to, even if it is impossible to control everything. As a general guideline no 14 year should be able to purchase M rated games or be able to play them without the express consent of their parent who has researched said game. There should not be a double standard for Grand Theft Auto or video games, all mediums of entertainment should be held to the same standards(doing otherwise would be hypocritical).

From my experience video game ratings are rather stringent and the large majority of M rated games are rather tame when compared to R rated movies. For the most part T rated games tend to be even tamer and the local news can be more graphic then them at times.

I think parents should strive for the enforcment of the ESRB ratings from retailers. A 14 year shouldn’t get into an R rated movie without a parent, why shold they be able to buy an M rated video game?

You can not dictate how other parents should raise their kids, if they think their 16 year old is fit to see an R rated movie or to play Grand Theft Auto then that is up to them. We can only hope to control our own children and what they are exposed and to lead by example. Trying to ban a videogame that is for adults to keep it out of the hands of children is not the way to go about being “morally right.”

May 3, 2008 at 3:45 pm
(35) Nicholas says:

I am a fifteen year old who has never played this game but I find it as an insult to my generation that we need violence to stay entertained. But it should be noted that it is the previous generation (your generation) making these games and marketing them. If you want to stop the distribution of these games stop it at the source. If that is too complicated, then it will be too complicated for you to prohibit your child from playing it if he wants to.

May 3, 2008 at 4:16 pm
(36) James says:

I don’t think Nicholas gives his generation enough credit.

GTA4 isn’t meant for kids and shouldn’t be played by kids. However, the game is made by adults, for adults and is largely played by adults.

Look at things like Guitar Hero & High School Musical. Do those things dwell in violence? I don’t think so and todays younger generation find entertainment in them and in many other non violent mediums.

May 3, 2008 at 4:24 pm
(37) Kaylin says:

I’m seventeen, but my mother bought the game for my twelve year old brother. He is smart enough to realize that there is a difference between real life and Grand Theft Auto. However she made me go with her to get the game so she could claim it was for me, she didn’t want people judging her.

May 3, 2008 at 6:58 pm
(38) bkosto says:

Yes, these games are violent. It even says so on the side of the box. ESRB ratings were made for a purpose and I would imagine the parents of the “distributor” could face some sort of criminal charges for what they have done. But if your 18, as required by the law, then the critics of the violence and sex and use of alcohol and drugs should shut up and not worry about what legal people are playing. Try playing the game, youll probably see its just as easy to drive the speed limit and not shoot anyone, you dont even have to pick up a hooker:)

May 3, 2008 at 8:31 pm
(39) Lori says:

Grand Theft Auto 3 was being played at my 12 year old sons Boy Scout campout this weekend. It was played by a 17 year old and a 12 year old. When I expressed concerns about this game, I was told it was cartoonish enough for the boys to realize it’s not true. However, I won’t allow my son to play it. Any game that assasinates elected officials, encourages myrder and rape, is not a game anyone should play, let alone kids.

April 26, 2011 at 3:29 pm
(40) hello says:

gta 4 does not incourage murder and rape it simply tries to find ways to entertain i have had played gta since i was ten

May 4, 2008 at 2:34 am
(41) Keith says:

I myself am 17 years old, and while I have not played this particular game, have played others in the past when I was younger and I do believe that the series is known for having more negative things in the games then they really do. Yes, they do have killing and some strong language, but if you look at the back of games rated T for Teen, they say the exact same, and the violence in the GTA games is never more than a war game. What makes it M is the sexual content and things like it, but those are all to the side of the main game and are never required to be seen or done by the player, and are only available if hte player chooses to play that aspect. If you establish some guidelines with your child about that, I believe they would respect that and would not use those functions of the game. Also i always knew the game was, is, and always will be fake. When I stole a car, not once did I think to myself, “Boy, that’s awesome I should go jcak my neighbors Camry!” If anything, it teaches you about NOT doing crimes. Your character always winds up punished, either by jail or death, and shows how corrupt and wrong that way of life is, further steering you clear of and participating in those activities.
I do understant however that you might not want your kids exposed to the violence or language or sexual content of the game. But unfortunently, they are exposed to it everyday. And its not just on TV, it’s also at school. Walk into a high school today, and you will hear more cursing and sex jokes than you can believe, even at the most prominent of schools, starting from middle school on up. So for most kids, anything in this game is nothing new.

May 4, 2008 at 5:23 am
(42) Suzy says:

I can’t believe mothers and others are making a huge deal out of this!!! I am a 44yo wife and mom of 3 boys, whom all love video games and play on a regular basis. My eldest son, whom is 22, bought it tonight, along with my husband
whom bought a game for himself.. My ds showed me the small book that went with it. Kind of like a map of what the fantasy city looked like. It looked fun, and my oldest stepson kept coming downstairs, while he was playing it, to tell us what funny and weird things have happened while he played Grand Theft Auto. Yeah, it’s more sophistacated since the last few that were made, but that’s life. I would rather have my kids at home playing video games, than out at a random party with booze, drugs, etc.. My kids shouldn’t have to be exposed to that at all. My kids have been playing video games for almost 20 years now, and our kids turned out okay!!!

May 4, 2008 at 1:02 pm
(43) Anthony says:

I dont think we need to make such a big deal of GTA IV because there are plenty of other worse ways to see this content. If your worried about the language it promotes, well so many kids watch south park which has way worse language then GTA. If your worried about the Sex kids can go on the internet and see way more graphic content then what GTA has. Also with violence TV is worse because it actually looks real as oppose to video games which you can tell is animated

May 5, 2008 at 3:29 pm
(44) Patricia Mcfarland says:

All of this is ridiculous, my son (16 yrs) is allowed to play GTA4 i have absolutely no problem with it my son should have the right to play a “fake” video game it is not real theres a very large difference when it comes to reALL AND FAKE AND THAT IS WHAT THIS AND ANY OTHER VIDEO GAME IS, FAKE! there is no reason to get mad because its supposed to be a fantasy not reality. I absolutely am disgusted in all these comments by these other mothers that do no allow there teenage sons or daughters play a !fake! video game. I hate americans for censoring everything!

May 5, 2008 at 3:36 pm
(45) kathy szramka says:

I have two sons. One is 10 and the other is 13. They both play some M rated games. I do not however, let them play GTA 1-4 because it have violence to women. I don’t think that it is ok for them to “play” that. Everyone must judge for themselves….GTA is just where I choose to draw the line.

May 5, 2008 at 3:42 pm
(46) KS says:

We all have to draw the line somewhere. We are taking away the innocence of our children. This game is not acceptable for humanity, yet alone our children.

May 6, 2008 at 3:08 am
(47) Brad says:

I am 35 years old I purchased this game and have played about 7 hours of it. I would strongly advise any parent not to allow there children to play this game. It is not that the content is going to hurt them its the fact that a parent saying this is ok is just the wrong message to send to your kids. This game plays like an interactive version of the howard stern show with violence thrown in. Rest assured your kids will see this game, and they will play it, discuss it with them and absolutely forbid them from owning it!!!! To the mother this story was written about I applaud your efforts and think your son is lucky to have you and your husband as parents.

May 6, 2008 at 3:20 am
(48) Brad says:

As a follow up if you want to get a mature rated game for your 14 year old to play I would recommend call of duty 4. Yes people die, there might be some language in it but you play a hero not a bad guy and other characters in the game make what I would consider heroic choices.

May 6, 2008 at 8:30 am
(49) Trisha says:

Parents have a responsibility to teach right and wrong, make believe and real life, and how to talk to someone when they are unsure. Violent games and movies do not make violent children. But the do desensitize them from the effects. This could be a good thing or a bad thing. Violence is everywhere and one of the most influential sources is the local news stations. Children can not be sheltered from this because they need to become street smart to survive most everywhere anymore. We can all wish with our eyes closed that this wasn’t so but it is the reality.

That being said, we do not sensor all violence, language, or nudity. Because we like to teach consiquences of the choices that you make and how they are right or wrong for each individual person. We do however sensor, sexual content, drug use, and disrespect of authority. We have a strict list of games on our do not play list for our children and all games are reviewed and played by my husband and his brother before being aloud on okay list if the rating is teen or higher and anything rated AO is not allowed in the house at all.

May 6, 2008 at 3:05 pm
(50) Tom Rhodes says:

My son just turned 15 this week. I am not buying him GTA 4. I have however, bought Call of Duty and other Mature rated games in the past and allowed him to play them. Am I hypocritical? Maybe, but I feel that there is a difference between COD4 and GTA4 from a moral veiwpoint. I do believe that the “M” ratings vary from game to game and it is the parents responsibility to decide if a certain game is appropriate for their children under 17.

I review all games before I let my son play them as I think all responsible parents should. GTA4 is a tough one, because it seems as though I am the only parent in my son’s High School not allowing their kid to play this game. It puts me in a tough spot with my son.

Do I think that by allowing him to play this game, it will encourage him to go out and do the things in the game? Absolutely not! But I do believe that it is exposing him to behaviors that may encourage him to be disrespectful or dishonest and I think that view is proven by some of the younger ones comments in this blog.

It may not be a popular viewpoint but I agree with the views of the original post. What parent would knowingly allow their child to market something clearly for adults in a school for 8th graders?

With anything I think that there should be balance and moderation. If the ESRB rates a game Mature, they do it for a reason and it’s up to us parents to decide whats best for our children. What I think is best may not be the same as someone else here.

Oh, and BTW, We also make our son READ for 30 mins a day. We are such mean parents!

May 13, 2008 at 1:07 pm
(51) Ian says:

You cannot rape anyone in Grand theft auto IV, and you cannot interact with prostitutes, Grand theft auto 4 is fine with kids, my cousin is 13 and he plays it all the time. The video game has no effect on children, just let him enjoy the video game.

May 16, 2008 at 3:02 pm
(52) Jim says:

Bottom line – this a game for adults. The makers of the game been very upfront about that. I heard a radio interview with one of the lead creators who said flat out, DO NOT LET YOUR KIDS BUY MY GAME.

But I am an adult and I am allowed to choose the entertainment I want. It annoys me when people say this game should not be sold at all, and yet those same people dont have the same standard for other media. If GTA4 is not allowed for anyone, neither should Rated R movies, nor rap or heavy metal music. Strip clubs? Gone. What about novels with sex and violence? Gone too. Then might as well get rid of PG-13 movies too, because I don’t like all that bad language. Where does it end?

May 17, 2008 at 5:54 am
(53) A 16 year old boy says:

yeah…. well i think you all are
pretty stupid its just a video game. It’s not like your son is going to play in that become a Hitman for the mob. And it’s not just senseless, thuggish actions in a virtual word. It has a very intresting story and if you actually played it you would understand. It has nothing to do with youth violence I’m a kid i would know by even at the age of 14 you have a certain mind set of how you work things. If you teased kids in elementary school, your probably the kind of kid that ends up in fights all the time. Most likely because you are an obnoxious kid and can’t keep your mouth shut. There’s a lot that goes on in a kids life that parents don’t know and its for the kid to experience and discover on his own. You open the door for your child, but its his choice to walk through.

May 20, 2008 at 9:39 am
(54) ryan says:

Its says “18″ on the box for a reason. Dont let your children play it. Its really quite simple when you think about it.

June 2, 2008 at 7:08 pm
(55) Andrew says:

I would also agree that kids should be disallowed from playing this game, i suppose this is why it is rated “M”, the world is voilent and adding to whats already bad does not make it better i agree, parients should keep the game from their kids, they may be too young to handly the mental aspect of real and unreal, though i doubt that, todays kids are so smart its not even funny, im a big fan of the GTA series, iv been playing the pc series from a tender age, i dont think im a voilent person, iv never comitted a creime i dont have a police record, i dont and have never done drugs even though i live in Jamaica where its so prominent, when it comes to getting rid of my stress then video gaming is my cure and the GTA series is the best thing you can offer in my time of need, i like the game becasue of the freedom it offer as in real life, allows you to be creative even, stop blaming the game for things you childs may do, thats just a sign of bad parienting, blaming someonelse, my mothers grew me well, she didnt have to stop me from playing my vid games, GTA in particular,for those of you who dont want to see that game in existence then i hope you have that will towards sin becasue it right in your home and around you and surly is more real that a little vid game, check yuh self and stop blaming others, you may as well lock you child up and stop them from watching TV if your that concerned about the things they see, if you ahve a problem with the content of the game then dont buy it, its that simple ppl.

June 11, 2008 at 9:59 pm
(56) nick says:

wow its your choice its kind of sad that you people have to read things on the internet to tell you if your are being a good parent if u have a son and he thinks he is mature enough to handle the game i say why not its language im fourteen and think nothin of it you cannot hide your kids from everything bad in the world im not saying you should go buy your kids some crack or condems but dont treat him like hes going to murder someone over this video game the language is bad in all but its you people who go crazy over it and it sounds cooler if they can get away with it so i would say let your kid get the game but if you see any physical or mental change negativly take it away

June 16, 2008 at 1:24 pm
(57) Karla says:

I let my 14 year old son play GTA4. We talk openly about the dangers and concequences of doing those things in real life. Also the exception of letting him get it was that he only plays with my husband or I present in the room and that he never be disrespectful to anyone. He never has been disrespectful to anyone and gets compliments from his teachers on how well behaved he is. He also makes A’s and B’s in school. It’s a matter of how involved you are in your childs life and what their temperment is. My son has always been mature for his age and we have always had an open relationship where he can talk to me about anything, including sex and drugs.

He had asked me many times to buy the game and I said no. That gave us time to talk about it before he played it. I bought it when I wanted to, not him. Therefore he didn’t demand and have his way. And I was able to surprise him with it. He still abides by the rule of me or dad being there when he plays. And he is not allowed to let his friends play as you never know which parents approve and which don’t. Also my son doesn’t really play the scenerios, he has the game for all the different cars that you can build and create.

June 22, 2008 at 7:07 pm
(58) Pat says:

I am a 14 year old boy who gets good grades in school, I have about a 90% average and I belive I am mature for my age. Most of the adults on this site will disagree with me on this, but I belive that we should have our say also, us teens are a part of society to! I think that what games a kid plays should be totally decided based on the child’s personality. One of my friends is a kind of angry person, and gets worked up and into fights often. I don’t belive he should be allowed to play GTA 4, I however belive some of my other friends, that never get into fights, are peaceful people, people that will actually apreciate the rich story of GTA 4 and not just play it for the shooting, should be allowed to play it. That is all

June 23, 2008 at 10:07 pm
(59) uk teen says:

ive played this game a fair bit and tbh the whole prostitution side is what scares my mother into not supporting me buying this game, but tbh i feel i am well rounded and educated enough to not let the content of the game affect my thoughts toward sexism and the like. Especially in the latest game interaction with prostitutes is not actually possible i think. There are strip clubs but their not illegal in real life are they? plus the actual attraction of these, in the game at least, is minimal. The one sex ‘scene’ i came across is actually quite comedic as you do not see anything at all and the sound effects in fact seem to be ridiculing ‘fake’ sex in itself. So woman abuse in this game is at an all time low and is almost non exsistent bar a couple of comments from in-game characters who you actually feel aminosity toward.

As someone previously said the main character in this game is emotionally scared and talks about the awful conflicts in eastern europe. The existence, or lack of, a god is also mentioned. This game is not mainly set out to be educational but this is managed as a side-effect of the game.

As violence and foul language go, there is alot of foul language and violence. There is of course a reason why it is rated 18 in the uk or whatever the US equivalent is.

Should a 14 year old be allowed this game? I personally am against heavy censorship but i think it all depends on the child’s maturity and moral integrity. If you feel your child can still be influenced by virtual characters and depictions, then don’t get them the game. It is impossible to answer the question entirely it is all relative to the child themselves.

June 24, 2008 at 4:51 am
(60) uk teen says:

plus all those people talking of rape in the game, i havent ever been an avid player of GTA series (havent been allowed) but i have played a fair bit of most of the games. There is no rape! there was prostitution but this is virtually gone from the new game!

July 1, 2008 at 12:48 am
(61) Anonymoust says:

I think that all of these parents saying that their kid should not be allowed to play these games, are assuming that their children will be encouraged *not to steal cars and stuff like that, but to become disrespectful and dishonest *like a previous comment*. But when you think about it, isn’t it virtually the same thing? I think that if your child wants to buy the game and you feel uncomfortable about it, then sit down with your kid and talk about the differences between real life, and a video game. I think if your kid understands these differences then you should let him/her play the game, because they will highly enjoy it! I’m 13 by the way, and I truly think you should listen to us teens and young adults more sieriously then the parents that do not allow their children to play GTA4, because most of the parents don’t understand how much kids these days are exposed to things in real life just as explicit or more as a simple video game in our school alone! So I hope I gave some good advice for you Denice

July 16, 2008 at 3:59 pm
(62) Name: Does it matter? says:

Personally, I think it is all up to the parents, but do you really think kids arent going to find a way around that. Also, you dont rape people in GTA IV, and like one of the comments said, it is about choices, you can choose to be an a**hole and kill innocent people ore you can just go with the story. The makers (Rockstar) were just trying to get a realistic approach. I played some violent video games as a kid, and I also played super mario, I watched some R movies, and also the lion king, but it didnt make me want to do anything drastic. I dispise people who blame all these rapists, pedophiles, killers on video games. Video games do that to people, and if anything their better than f***ed up R rated movies because at least you can take your anger out on the game. Generally, you just get some people who r fu***d up in the head and thats why there are rapists and stuff. There doesnt always have to be a reason . Also, a mother that buys their son GTA 4 are normally mothers that feel guilty for the kid for not being there for them because of jobs and sh*t because no mother with a right mind should give a young child GTA, and the sons that do have GTA because of their mums, (i know this sounds harsh) but have a better chance of doing something drastic.

July 27, 2008 at 10:58 pm
(63) jb says:

this game is NOT intended for kids, can we have that put up on a loudspeaker or something, the average age of a gamer is well over 18 so there should be adult games for those people for all of the people trying to say this game should never have existed, have you ever watched a quality rated R movie, well if you have you are now a hypocrit, if you havent you are at least sticking to your claims i guess

August 1, 2008 at 7:11 pm
(64) Justin says:

Well, I agree because your a mother and love your son very much. I don’t think you would like your son to be exposed to such things, but I think he should already know. GTA4 is a game that is of course violent,sexual, and even funny game. Its a good game, a really good game actually. I think that games get into your head though. If your son bought that game, what would he do? Purchase a gun and kill people on streets? I doubt it. GTA4 has made a lot of buyers happy, but out of any of them, who actually killed someone? Your son should learn to NOT do these things but also your might be a little paranoid.

August 4, 2008 at 1:34 pm
(65) Daniel says:

haha
over-protective parenting is a huge problem in america and every year it has to blamed on something, so why not video games I dont think it matters what age your child is but rather how matue he is, if you think he can play ths video game yet not repeat any of vulgar content then yes ifyou beleive your child is mature enough then he should be aloud to own this game, however if you think your child is not ready for this sort of content then you should not allow him to play these violent games, it all comes down to how you have taught you child in the very first place and recommend that you do not over-protect your child because then he would not know how to deal with these things when he is an adult.

August 5, 2008 at 7:22 pm
(66) Bob says:

I like comment 60 – spend enough time with your kid and give them activities to do with their peers and the game, or movie, whatever isn’t going to be the major influence in their life changing their behavior. Most of the game industry focuses the price and level of violence and sex on the single 20-30 year olds who have the money and are bored adults seeking easy stimulation and escape. Minors are actually a secondary consideration. Just a comment from the business perspective on why games are the way they are.

August 6, 2008 at 5:04 pm
(67) Metalhead says:

It is fine for a 14 year old boy to play gta4 as long as you are confident that he knows the difference between what is fake and what is real. GTA4 was created to be a game that lets you do what you can’t in real life. In a way it may be beneficial for your son to be exposed to violence, sex, and drugs with your permission than to find out for himself, which, eventually, he will.

August 16, 2008 at 1:31 pm
(68) Niko bellic says:

i would give a 13 year old gta 4 if he didnt go to the ingame strip clubs and if he was smart enough to understand that it is a video game

August 16, 2008 at 10:26 pm
(69) Teotwawki says:

GTA IV is a peice of art. Would you stop you 14 year old from reading shakespeare or kurt vonnegut? I thought censorship was a dirty word in america. The way it is today children are exposed to sex and violence at a very young age if not on TV or in movies, then at school. To think you can keep your children in a protective bubble all thier life is wrong. On the other hand the game is designed for adults. I am not saying that all kids should have acess to it, that should be the parents decision, to make it informed I suggest renting the game and playing it yourselves. Then you will see how you have been misinformed by the conservative media. There is no way to rape or dismember women. The violence is shown in a way where the protagonist is remorsefull. I am just saying don’t judge a book/game by it’s cover/ popular media.

August 17, 2008 at 11:47 pm
(70) Kyle says:

People need to stop using violence as a scapegoat for crimes and violence. What is the difference between at 14 year old playing it and a 17 year old playing it. They are only three years apart. This is ridiculous. And to the people that are saying this game should be banned, the majority of the people who play this game are old enough to be allowed to make their own decisions. Why don’t we ban the godfather while we’re at it.

August 19, 2008 at 2:27 pm
(71) Jordan says:

That is the most ridiculous thing I have read.

We live in 2008 now people, violence is on the news, in films and in books. Do we hear people slating them? No.

Then the person who wrote this article didn’t even look at the facts! You cannot rape people in the game – you are simply stating this to make the game look worse than it is.

I’m 16 years old. I have been playing Grand Theft Auto games since I was 11 or 12. Have I ever committed a crime? No. Have I ever thought about committing a crime? No.

Being honest, a teenager who plays this game and then wants to reenact what you can do in the game in real life has serious mental problems.

Sigh, people like you will never stop criticizing games such as these until the world ends.

Lucky we ignore you though, because us normal teens and adults can actually play the game and live a normal life.

August 23, 2008 at 12:37 am
(72) 14 yr old GTA fan says:

well since there is a crap load of comments i don’t want to read through let me just say these games help people blow off steam!its a way to take their anger out on something besides actual people!i am the shy kid most people don’t notice in school but if someone makes me mad i don’t beat the crap out of them i go home pop in some GTA get a glass of pop and shoot FAKE people to RELIEVE my STRESS in HELPFUL ways that DO NOT harm real people and i ask you,what is wrong with that?if someone plays a game and are not intelligent enough to understand it is just that,a game then they don’t need to play it but people who play this and do stuff already had the problems and are using the game as a scape goat to get out of trouble for what THEY did and not take blame but to pass it on to the biggest form of home entertainment

August 28, 2008 at 8:19 pm
(73) Kitten in a boot. says:

You cannot rape epople. It’s just a game. It’s not as bad as media or you portray it. Please get your facts straight and at least look at this game before you judge it.

September 8, 2008 at 2:22 pm
(74) Brittany says:

I think many of the people who are pro-GTA are missing the big picture.

I’m 22 and I am a huge gamer, and I do play GTA. No, it’s not really a big deal that people are running around blowing things up and stealing cars, because it is all over the place, not just in video games. It’s everywhere. I think we all understand that.

The problem is that the game is *degrading* to women. It portrays that it is okay to see a hooker on the side of the street and have sex with them in a secluded area. There are hookers and strippers and sexual acts throughout the game and it’s disgusting!
If they can make a game such as this, what makes you think they don’t act like that in the “real world”? This is just making kids think that it’s okay to treat women like crap.

No, not every person is going to turn out this way, hence the “M” rating on the front of the game. When 9, 10, 11 year olds are playing this though, it’s a completely inappropriate game, and I don’t care how mature you are at that age. You don’t willingly expose your kids to that. Seriously, some parents need to take responsibility.

September 20, 2008 at 3:27 pm
(75) dude123 says:

Yeah it way ok!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I know a 5 year allowed to play it!!

October 19, 2008 at 10:14 pm
(76) Jack says:

Hey guys, now I’m not one of those 16 year old kids who goes around blogs making ridiculous posts, but I was deeply offended by the story and the some of the comments. On one end of the spectrum, yes it is an immoral game, but the game does not affect anyone over the age of 13. As an aspiring game designer, I have studied hundreds of games, GTA 4 is a prime example of a highly polished game. It has a wonderfully told story that is often misleading to parents. Yes the main character is a killer, but he doesn’t want to be. He moves from eastern Europe to the U.S in search of a life away from violence, but soon learns that only those with the cash can live the american dream.

Now I know parents out there are very worried about this game, after all it is about criminal activity. Now coming from a 16 year old gamer, I can safely say that I have seen and heard a lot worse at school. I go to one of the top schools in California and I hear the same crap every day. And I don’t hear parents complain about that. I hear the f word at least 100 times a day, I hear so many sexual jokes I sometimes throw up in my mouth. But what I don’t see is violence. Now an FBI study has shown a significant decrease in youth crimes. About an 80% decrease. This massive decline began when videogames started to become a common activity for kids. Coincidence? Perhaps, but if videogames really affected people, I think we would see a lot more school shottings, teenage robberies, and so on. It is our country’s fault that we have such easy access to guns, and therfore one of the largest murder rates in the world. I know parents are afraid, but please, allow your kids to enjoy games. Talk to them about what they learn playing them, get involved. If you want proof that games are wonderful check out sarcastic gamer and see how much money we raised for kids with cancer. The link is here. http://sarcasticgamer.com/wp/

Treat your teenagers like young adults, not old children. Prepare them for the real world, not the idyllic world we all wished we lived in. Thank You.

October 26, 2008 at 3:58 pm
(77) Sebastian says:

While I firmly believe that it is your right as a parent to make the final decision on what games you want your child playing, but If you were to sit down with your child and tell him/her the difference between grand theft auto 4 and reality then grand theft auto becomes a game and nothing more.

October 29, 2008 at 10:46 am
(78) gamer1 says:

the board who rates these games is actually a bunch of 30-40 year old over protective moms I played the games since I was 12 years old and Im not out killing people I think that it should be a dicision made between both parents and their kids weather or not they are mature enough to handle the game I would say their is definitely alot worse things on tv that kids have acces to all the time

November 4, 2008 at 2:58 pm
(79) gta f***ing rocks says:

hey! you guys need to chill im 18 and i say this game is fine i have all the editions and i have never done anything wrong (crime) i think it helps kids to release stress and anger. But at my age it starts to get boring so i say while they are still young let them play trust me they’ll get bored of it. when i was 14 i played A LOT but now im sick of video games. If you don’t let them do it now they may have to wait untill they are 18 then become old men that play games all day. So i say let them get it out of there systems while they are still young.

November 29, 2008 at 1:09 am
(80) David Ill Nino says:

Look, I have Gta4 and I’m 13. Do I go into stripclubs? No. I did once but I was supposed to. The only reason why I’m replying to this is because I think you people need to relax a little. I mean, I’m 13, in the 8th grade, I’m bullied, and I listen to Death Metal.(You’ll see what I’m getting at soon enough)I’m also a straight A student. My music and my games bother me? No. I’m not bothered by anything. I’m just fine. And honestly, what you’re doing to a child by not letting him play games is pretty much giving him an Altari and telling him to play Final Fantasy.
I’m not saying all of you are wrong, but really. If he’s 14 he’ll be going through a lot of changes, as I am doing right now.
What I’m trying to say is that people should be allowed to play the game IF AND ONLY IF the parents bought it for them.

November 29, 2008 at 1:46 am
(81) Josh - 13 years of age. says:

I’d definitely have to agree with the above poster, David.

I’m 13 and I own the game Grand theft auto IV. Do you see me going around with an AK-47 shooting innocent civilians, hi-jacking expensive cars and or going on masacres? I think not.

Parents are definitely too paranoid. You all need to understand we’re not ignorant, blinded individuals – We’re smarter than you all expect. We don’t enherit nor behave in ways of how the fictional character we may play behaves.

Give your sons/daughters a chance first, don’t go ahead and make assumptions. Let them try the game, monitor their behavior and see if it changes. If they become more aggresive, then by all means take the game away from them; however, if they behave normal – Let them keep playing, if it was going to effect their behavior, the first sign you would see is they would become more aggresive.

I’m almost certain that violent games would not effect more than 1 in 100 kids. Some may argue that the ‘statistics’ show it’s something like 1 in 5, however every child will have ranging effects on their mental side of things through aging, it’s all a part of maturing and growing up.

Go ahead, critisise what I’ve just said; But I should know what I’m talking about, afterall I am 13 myself.

December 24, 2008 at 4:26 am
(82) Alex says:

I can’t believe so many people are taking it all out on these games.Things in GTA happen in movies,on television(reality as well…),and books.
Besides,parent with any parenting skills,or any teen with the ability to distinguish fiction from reality would have no problems with it.If someone is mature enough to realize that a game is just that,a GAME,I think they should get to play it.

December 30, 2008 at 4:32 pm
(83) Jesus says:

You owe somebody 70 bucks or a copy of GTA IV. It is a video game, and you CAN’T rape people, just to clarify. Also, kids should understand the difference between a game and the real world. CSI is only TV-14 and in some situations is WAY worse than GTA IV, however requires no ID or anything, just a TV.

January 2, 2009 at 5:53 am
(84) Harold says:

Im 17 and my mother refuses to let me get this game, i dont understand because ive played it before and i play A LOT of violent games and im still a pacifist and nice. People say it influences young people to do bad things from seeing violence, but watching the news is just as bad, my brother is in the army, they train him TO KILL and my parents would be happy with that. Parents just cant see from our point of view… and the people that do violent things in real life after playing the game must be mentally unstable anyway and will probably commit these crimes GTA or not.

January 4, 2009 at 10:36 pm
(85) Alex says:

Hey im a dad i I let my 14 year old kid to play this because. First he knows the difference between a video games and real life. And second my son is very mature he has never been in trouble in school or the law. Aslo he has very good grades. so it really depends on he/she maturity level.

January 5, 2009 at 9:44 am
(86) Niko Bellic says:

GTA was designed for adults, yet if children choose to play it reponsibly , they should be allowed. However, if they copy the games nature, the parentsshould be more considerate and the children to grow up and get a life.

Im 84 and i play GTA,and my 5 year old grandson plays it aswell. I dont mind.

NB

January 5, 2009 at 9:54 am
(87) Gary Glitter says:

Hello, i am Gary Glitter. As you all know.
I am gay, and like little children as much as everyone else, but probably more…
LOL I LIKE GTA PROSTETUTES AND CHILDREN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

January 6, 2009 at 5:33 am
(88) Dani Calofir says:

Games are for people to do things that they cant normally do and to relax and have fun…..

I use GTA to relieve stress , im doing exams soon , and i am getting a little stressed. IM 14!

January 9, 2009 at 4:35 pm
(89) Nick says:

I am 12 i have all the GTA’s and i am even a hardcore gamer but i still know the difference between a game and real life i am not gonna commit violent acts or go rape someone because i saw it in a game.Kids today are exposed to sex,violence everything but they just need to understand the difference between a game and real life and ya grand theft auto IV is a great game if you get the storyline and like the gameplay so i say yes

January 11, 2009 at 2:16 pm
(90) josmos says:

YES he should be able to play it, in fact i recomend it becose

THIS GAME GOT MORAL VALUES!

This game got more moral value’s then anything out there.

it teaches you to look further then the violence, why ppl get in certain situations why they do certain things.
It doesnt promote crime it shows that every crime gets its punishement, if its by the law, by others or just by themselves. You know, no one has a problem if a good guy in a movie shoots and kills a bad guy.. thats ok he’s just a bad guy.. GTA switches that around and makes you think..

it points the finger at the problems the world has today making ppl aware in a way that is even entertaining. cars driving on food , paris hilton parodies, and our love on trashing celeberties down the gutter. its all there. even financial things like visa and even stock market problems are adressed in GTA4

if you hate this game so much, maybe you should stop judging it on its violence and just play it.. you ll be surprised what you find in it..

i would be happy if my games would play it.

January 12, 2009 at 12:50 pm
(91) Jessica says:

As a proud mother of 3 children, I feel that this game should be banned and taken off of the market. I am a proud conservative and I do not allow this filth in my home and I do not allow my children near any garbage like this. Why would anyone want to rape and torture innocent kids and people is beyond me. I encourage all parents to send letters to local game stores, city officials, and other parents to help boycott this smut.

January 14, 2009 at 10:59 am
(92) SHAUN says:

What!?!?! there are much more violent video games out on the market
THERE ARE CIGARETTES OUT ON THE MARKET DONT YOU THINK DRUGS ARE MUCH WORSE
I THINK YOU SHOULD LET HIM PLAY IT I’M SURE HE KNOWS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GAMES AND REAL LIFE

January 15, 2009 at 2:45 pm
(93) Shezan says:

i m playin this grand theft auto game since i was a little kid… i played this game for the first time in 1998.. that time i was of 9 years… n my birth year is 1989… every kid knws whats wrong and whats right… i enjoy playin this game… nothin happens when we kill some one on the computer… this game gives us knowledge about the life… gives us some tricks… n lots of fun… i ve got all the parts of grand theft auto… :) ive got all the parts in pirated version…

January 17, 2009 at 10:39 am
(94) martin says:

i am a 15 year old boy an i play video games. (and because of that, my opinion will sadly, propable matter less than any older person opinion)

i think most people here dont really understand what they talk about, because most of you guys have neve actually played this game. a lot of you have complained about that “its a game that encourages rape and violence against women” what? sure there are hookers and strip clubs, but that isnt really rape, or even violence, is it? i am although aware of that you can kill hookers in the game, J

January 18, 2009 at 10:37 pm
(95) Alex says:

Please remember that we are talking about a 14 year old playing Grand Theft Auto 4. 14 year olds are not kids, they are teens. Also that the game is meant for 17/18+, who are not adults. I am 14 years old and have played earlier GTA games. I am aware that it is fake, i’ve been taught whats right and wrong, real and fake. Parents should hear what kind of conversations happen in a middle school with 11-14 year olds.

January 31, 2009 at 11:11 pm
(96) parents says:

Look at this video then u will know why child shouldnt touch this…

June 27, 2011 at 10:01 pm
(97) A 12 year old boy says:

it got removed

February 3, 2009 at 10:38 pm
(98) Pizda says:

Ok I Got The Game And My Parents Fliped Out i am 16 and i had all the previous gta games they decided to not let me play ps3 until i sell the game and i refused to sell why is it such a big deal do you think a 16 should be able to play????

February 12, 2009 at 6:18 am
(99) Steve says:

´The game has been proven to make children more agressive. Pizda your parents care about you and do not want you to be affected. also i think it is a nasty way to portray policemen. they are good people who work to protect us. they are abused in this game and made to look like fools. kids should respect the police and i think this game gives of a nasty impression and makes out to kids that police are just objects. also it has inaprpiate language and a filthy storyline.

February 16, 2009 at 1:35 pm
(100) jorge says:

i have grand theft auto 3, vice city, and vce city stories and to tell you the truth so do my friends and we have no problem with it because its a video game sure 1980 wasnt as graphic as todays games but to tell you the truth all kids today know right from wrong so i dont knowwhy its an issue justleave it be you dont like it dont buy it.

February 21, 2009 at 7:28 pm
(101) Nate says:

I was 10 when I got my first GTA game I’m now 14 when I grow up and have my kids I’ll let them play this and other games like it because not only are they good games but the fact that you get to shoot people steal cars and do all the other stuff in it is actually good that it’s in a video game it lets people do stuff that they wont in real life for instance I wont shoot someone because I see it in a video game or on tv because I know its fake and that you wont get away with it its not that hard to figure out

February 23, 2009 at 4:19 pm
(102) steve says:

i think it’s a parents responsibility to teach their kids right from wrong and not the makers of gta. if you dont think your child is fit to play then don’t buy it. my son is a responsible 16 year old with good grades, respect for his fellow people, is a boy scout and spends alot of time helping our community, recently, he asked if i could get him the game and i did, because i know he wont commit any acts depicted in the game. after a few months of owning the game, his behavior has not changed. parents, trust your kids, let them out of the comfort zone every now and then, they have to be exposed to the world sometime.

February 25, 2009 at 8:28 pm
(103) Jeff says:

I personally disagree with this article in most ways. I agree that the kid shouldn’t get the game-he probably isn’t mature enough, but Its not age that matters-thats just a number. Its maturity. If a kid can tell the difference between game and life, so that basically the game makes no change in their life and at most they’re just happy to play it, and maybe talk to fellow gaming friends about it, its fine.

February 27, 2009 at 11:01 pm
(104) David says:

I really think that if your son is mature enough then he should be able to play the game. I have it and I’m 16, and I’ve played the Grand Theft Auto’s before his age. And, it’s a really fun game. My parents bought the game for me. I make great grades in school so the game doesn’t “rot people’s minds” according to some of the comments on here. So, if your son is mature then yes get him the game. If you decide to allow him to play the game then he WILL appreciate you more and he will feel good because he knows that you trust him.

April 22, 2009 at 8:25 pm
(105) Connor says:

I think that games probably bad for everyone. I’m his age and I don’t even think that I would even think of buying it. You have the right to decide what he plays. PS who ever sold your son screwed him out of 10 bucks there only 60 dollars at release.

May 13, 2009 at 11:13 am
(106) Vikram says:

I’m a 15-year-old and I perfectly approve of teens playing GTA if they know what they are doing. The main thing that makes GTA so entertaining is the freedom to move about the virtual world just like in real life. It is not going around shooting people. It is the freedom, and you choose what to do, and I’ve never gone around insanely and shot people. What I like about the game is that you can explore the city in full freedom. As for the missions, the violence is mostly cartoony and is equal to a PG-13 movie. It is the freedom of going around and killing people that gives the game its rating. If you know your teen wont do that, you can buy him the game.

June 4, 2009 at 5:43 pm
(107) Michael says:

Oh, come on,you are overestimating the problem!If the kid is smart enough to understand that most of things in the game are impossible to do freely in real life, and that it is not less violent than some criminal films, you see that it only depends on the child’s mind, can she resist or not?I think it can be played by 14 years old, I’m playing it, but I’m still not killing people on the streets, you know.

June 26, 2009 at 6:54 pm
(108) Christian says:

hello i am 13 and i am going into 8th grade. i have wanted some games in the grand theft auto series, expecially this one. unfortunatlly my parents wont let me get it. even though they have gotten me both godfathers and other insanly bloody and violent games.in both godfathers you kill cops alot and there is blood and everything. same with grand theft auto 4. well i have to say that if i was a parent today. i would buy my kid the game, but i would show him/her the sex and violence so they arnt curious. and be strictly serious about what they can or can not do in the game. plus the worst part of the game would have to be the sex. i dont think that if a kid plays this game they would become killers, drug addicts, etc. i play video games alot, but i still have a life, i plan to be a cop when i grow up. it is the parents job to show the kid that normal people dont do these things and that it is just fake. you cant blame a game for bad parenting, im sorry.

July 12, 2009 at 4:54 am
(109) Agnes Crocker says:

Wow!What a sight! kids & video games;parents& cars; businesses & computers. let’s match them up. Bugs Bunny&Elmer Fudd(a gun); what year was that??? Slyvester &Tweety(what year was that???); Wilde Coyote& the Roadrunner, what year was that??? In other words, what are you people talking about? There has been violence protrayed all through our history; some documented in books;all you have to do is read them. Then we had an invention called television; black & white, violence; the old westerns; they just shot each other; that was the way of life; then you had the Great Walt Disney; Elmer Fudd & Bugs Bunny shooting each other. Not to mention; Yeosite Sam also trying to shoot Bugs Bunny. Come on; the cartoon characters used dynomite provided by the ACME company. Is the company fake, or real? Remember the words to the song: “Shoot the wabbit; shoot the wabbit” does it ring a bell? my husband still sings it and our neighbours have pet rabbits (but we don’t have a gun).

Bottom Line: Violence is within the person; you can be from the very rich or very poor; but don’t forget that there are citizens in between these classes that hold you above water. . Think about it!!! Research it!!! Look at history!!! For the most part; the middle class citizen is the most organized; the civilized and most reasonable citizen in your society. Why? Because they have suffered; they have questioned why they have suffered; they are the only ones whose tax dollars have changed at the cost of others and I quess maybe there are more of us than you and a change was needed.

July 12, 2009 at 7:15 am
(110) agnes crocker says:

I got a little sidetracked on my earlier comment; but really they are connected. Government & children’s games. A game is a game; you as a parent have to teach and instill the difference between reality and fiction. Just like a good novel; the suspense is felt; you want to keep reading;you need to know what happens next.Do you as an adult ignore the phone? A video game is the same thing; you get involved; but when are taught right from wrong at a young age you also learn right from wrong. Good from evil. However; there is always going to be that child/adult who will take a video game/tvshow/or real life happening and try to make it his/her own and act upon it. This is not always a case of bad parenting; sometimes it is the result of their own community putting too much attention on that child’s behaviour; and not enough attention on what that particular child has endured & still has to endure.There is always a underlying cause.In today’s society, being the year of 2009, the blame seems to fall at the feet of teenagers.They are all lumped into one big category.Yet, our society has men/women who have been licensed for 50 + years, can’t tell the difference between a light pole and a stop sign. They cause accidents because they are losing their mental facilities!!! Teenagers cause accidents probably because they are inexperienced!!!But a newly licensed teen has limitations on him/her but a more mature driver(70) has no limitations even though he/she can’t see one foot in front of the other. Our society is stereotyping, and it is aimed directly at teens. The teenager today has to have a completely clean no-nonsense abstract, community volunteer work; be athletically inclined and yet have a high honours/honours in school in order to fit into today’s society. (I forgot; they also have to have work experience at the age of at least 14/15 in order to get hired; unless you know someone in the company.) The same work applications are used for full/partime adults as are teenagers. The teens are stumped at the age of 14-16 as to how to fill them out. Companies who do hire students should have a different job application for students.

July 17, 2009 at 4:56 pm
(111) Paul says:

The answer is yes he should be allowed that is if he is mature enough to play it. Basically the only thing tat is bad about this game is the hookers but even that isnt graphic the fact is the game is fun and it lets u blow off steam its fun to be the criminal for a change. when u play its not like ur killing real people remeber its not REAL.

September 13, 2009 at 9:59 am
(112) mike says:

Steve I hope you understand that not all policemen are clean that goes for the rest of us its to build story. As for the study where it violent video games make children more aggressive that was dis proven it only makes children more aggressive for a few seconds

October 21, 2009 at 5:10 am
(113) Girl says:

Grand Theft Auto is not only fiction, but satire. If your child isn’t mature enough to play, don’t let them, but they SHOULD be mature enough by 14.

October 30, 2009 at 5:07 pm
(114) terri says:

i am a teacher and 10 year olds in my class are playing it! One boy in particular is completely obsessed with it and spends hours on it.

November 15, 2009 at 2:15 pm
(115) Zach says:

I think you should let him play it for this very reason. It’s a game. Yes there is some cussing and other stuff like that. He most likely hears you cuss every single day. There is no rape at all in that game. My son is twelve and I let him play it. I truthfully don’t care. Its a game. Also, its not good at all to give away 70 dollars because of something stupid like that. Its not as bad as people say it is.

November 21, 2009 at 3:37 pm
(116) Jon says:

I got it at 14. its not that bad. you just need to realize that your son isn’t stupid, he knows its fake and that whats in it should not be recreated

December 8, 2009 at 11:43 pm
(117) Andy says:

It isn’t about whether the kid knows it is fake or not. It is about all of the drug use, prostitution, sex, senseless killing, etc. Now don’t get me wrong, I just sat down to play it, but at 14 you can get the impression that it is cool to do that stuff and talk that way. I personally love that game, but I would never let a kid under the age of at least 16 play it. As other comments have said, it is rated M for a reason. You can pick up prostitutes, you steal cars regularly, you shoot people just to take their money, and your character has a mouth worse than a sailor, and these things are only the beginning. I can’t believe a parent would buy this for their child to distribute at school. If they let their kid buy it, that is fine, but don’t give it to other kids. I am 21, and not a parent, and I played some M rated games when I was 14, but video games have changed a lot since then even.

December 12, 2009 at 5:00 am
(118) August says:

Hey Guys!
I sometimes agree with you !
“BUT ” most of the 14 years girl or boys have seen the most from before, and actually if you think about it, its just a game and not many people do what the game does in near future !

I have the game myself and i think Call Of Duty 6 is much worse then GTA 4.

the only strong thing is the sexually, but you could skip it so whats the problem then?

Regards August.

December 25, 2009 at 3:30 pm
(119) Zack says:

I think that it’s fine.Me,im just a 16 year old boy and my parents wont let me get the game at all too.I dont understand why though because if you think about it,playing video games helps children escape from the real world and they can do anything they want to do that they couldnt or wouldnt do in real life.If your son understands fantasy from reality then i say “Hell with it” and let hime play his video game.

January 2, 2010 at 9:14 am
(120) tatie says:

hi, i totally agree that what that mother did was bad. terrible in fact. too be honest i like gta, not because of its violence, sex or murder. i like it because its a game.
this mother could give her child this game if she knew exactly how he would reaact. but say her son is fine and knows its a game, but then she gives it to other kids who may not be used to the content which is just down right stupid. you shouldnt ban this game simply because its a game and you buy it for someone who cant handle it, well then your stupid. not the child, not the manufactures.

thank you

February 27, 2010 at 8:16 pm
(121) Carl says:

The author of this article is obviously biased and hasn’t even bothered to do any background research. You can’t rape prostitutes in the game. To add to that, most of the violent acts the player can commit in the game is completely optional. Finally, there is barely any nudity; you get worse in movies. It frustrates me to see the videogame industry being used as a scapegoat for the issues that many teens face today.

March 20, 2010 at 7:02 pm
(122) Ken says:

Im not a parent. Im a 10 year old boy that plays games like Call of duty etc, etc. I think you should let your kids play GTA because as kids were not that dumb as you think. I have been playing stuff like GTA , CoD MW2 , Bayonnetta , etc. As long as you teach and tell your kids not to do the things that happen in the games and to tell which is a video game and which isnt and tell them not to do anything that happens in the game your child will be fine. Still ive been playing these games and i have never done anything as stupid in the game. Games are for fun its not like teenagers and pre – teens are going to steal a car , drugs , smoke just because you played a game… Thats just jank. So i think you should let your children play “M” rated games as long as they know and understand its just a game. My parents tell me that everytime they see me playing. If your child does anything like whats in the game , dont blame the game blame the parents. You should have told your kids about understanding what not to do in the what they did in the video game.

March 24, 2010 at 1:15 pm
(123) Guywhowantstotellthetruth says:

Oh for god sake! I completely agree with maggie. If your children cant tell games from reality then is it the games fault? The game doesn’t tell you ” oh my goodness going out and killing cops and prostitutes is so much fun. Do it!” If parents can’t teach their kids that games are not reality then they shouldn’t buy it.

April 1, 2010 at 7:38 pm
(124) John says:

I curious…for those parents that don’t allow GTA, what games do they play on X-Box? Where do you draw the line?

April 1, 2010 at 9:59 pm
(125) Jayme says:

Dear Friends, Happy Fool’s Day!!

91-year-old Goldstein and his 89-year-old wife of 66 years go to their lawyer to get a divorce.
Puzzled, the lawyer asks, “Why did you wait all this time if you were both so miserable for so long?”
The answer: “We were just waiting for the kids to die.”

Happy April Fool’s Day!

August 16, 2010 at 2:04 pm
(126) Nick says:

I think they should play, but they must understand it is not real and should not do any actions in the game.

August 19, 2010 at 8:25 am
(127) cody says:

i agree with ken i am 14 and i played gta 4 for a while and its not as bad as watching the movie chanels on hbo and other things on tv we r kids and as we all know kids like to be destructive sometimes but can we honesty say that none of u parents werent the same wen u were kids but also if u havent realized the game was made from 2008 and crime started in like the 50,s so let them play i always saw the game to have great violence and language but it is a chance to excperience wat it was like before we were born but if ur child plays the game think of it also as a better way for them to excperience what it is like in the outside world so give that a thought before u jugde the game from what it says on the backs cus some games say they have nudity in it like red dead redemtion nothing in it people i beet the game no nudity but like i said this game was made apon wat our ancestors have done before we all were born so think about it

October 28, 2010 at 2:06 pm
(128) Samuel says:

It depends on the parent and wheter or not you think that your child is mature enough or not. It is rated 18 but this is only a guideline by the government. So it is up to you.

November 2, 2010 at 10:20 pm
(129) Anonymous says:

I was 14 and my mom let me buy Grand Theft Auto IV AND the Call of Duty series. Let me tell you, Call of Duty is much more violent than Grand Theft Auto. It’s mostly driving cars. And the prostitution thing is completely optional. He can say “yes” or “no” to askers. Or run them over. :P I say let your son have the game.

March 4, 2011 at 4:59 am
(130) cameron says:

all his mates are going to be playing it so he will be left out anyway if you dont let him play it he will just go round his friends to play it.

March 7, 2011 at 2:39 pm
(131) MARC says:

Do you know why there are so many comments on this game? Because there always have been; and always will be. We gamers stand by our games and those who don’t know an NES from a WII will stand on the sidelines and take every response whether formulated thoughtfully and respectfully -or otherwise and twist it to fit their own agenda. They are a minority that does not matter. These games will continue to roll off the assembly line much to your chagrin so you lose. You gamers (myself included) STOP feeding these damn trolls and spend your time and energy elsewhere. I am a 33 year old family man. I have GTA4 as well as both addons. My son is 13 and my daughter is 9. Neither will play this game because it is not meant for kids. Nuff said. If you are underage and you play. Good for you-but it’s not for you. In closing I swear to God, if one more person points out the fact that 2 kids committed an atrocious act of violence at Columbine and blames video games I am going to do nothing. Why. Because It’s stupid and does not effect me LOL. But just remember even if games had something to do with Columbine…which it didn’t….that’s two kids out of billions that play now….worldwide on PSN XBOX live and PC. That’s like 0.000000000000000000000000001% percent of the population. I could attribute a hell of alot more viloence to education or lack thereof, poverty, alcoholism and drug addiction. If you really wanted to make a difference you would go out and combat the real evils that plague America. But you dont. And you wont. So have a nice day. Be careful on your way home. You’ll pass 50 gamers. SCARY. LOL.

March 16, 2011 at 3:32 pm
(132) Noah says:

I am 14 and in 8th grade as well and I started playing gta when i was 12 now excuse me if I am wrong but bye 8th grade you should have talked with your son about right and wrong by that age he should know that Murder, Drugs, Sex, and Violence is not acceptable

March 21, 2011 at 6:48 pm
(133) Riley says:

I am a fifteen year old kid, and I don’t play games like this. However, it shouldn’t be made illegal to sell a game like this. By living in America, we are given freedom, we are given choices. It goes against what our nation is built on to outlaw games like this. By the time an average kid is in high school, he or she will most likely have been given opportunities to do bad things. A game like this won’t show kids new things, if anything it might give them ideas, but a smart kid, who has been raised right will make the right choice. I have never done drugs or drank, or done anything like that, but I have been curious, and wanted to try, but I don’t. It isn’t that I don’t know where to get drugs, or how to get alcohol out of our cabinet, I could. It would not be hard. I don’t do drugs because I have been raised in a house where I have been given choices, and I haven’t always made the right choices, but I have learned from my mistakes and I know that drugs and alcohol are not a good idea for a fifteen year old kid. Playing a game like Grand Theft Auto wouldn’t change that. But for many kids –friends of mine, and others I don’t know–, drugs and alcohol are caused by parents being too controlling, or not controlling at all. A game like this can’t be blamed for parents making mistakes. Parents should learn from their mistakes, just as I have learned from mine. A good parent wouldn’t let their child get a game like this. But a better parent wouldn’t have to worry about the consequences of their child playing this game, and probably wouldn’t even have to worry about their child even playing this game.

March 22, 2011 at 9:42 pm
(134) Cooper says:

I have GTA 4 and I just turned 14. The thing is you can pick the things you want to do in the game, if you chose not too, then you will never ever see any hookers or things like that. I just had to promise my parents I would be mature about it.

April 19, 2011 at 9:52 pm
(135) J says:

Well I personally don’t have a problem with it because me and play it over Xbox Live. The multiplayer is much different from the singleplayer in MANY ways. I let my son play it because we have some thing we both enjoy and I mean most of our kids hear about this stuff on the news any ways. I feel that our society has started to “baby” this generation. We always tell our kids what they should do but, never what they really want to do. As with your story I understand the situation but, if your son worked for that money he should have gotten it back. As I see would you rather have your kid learn it the hard way or through a harmless game which isnt even that bad

May 15, 2011 at 6:43 pm
(136) Greg White says:

Well firstly, as a father, i believe that you made the rational decision because most 14 year old boys cannot handle the game. But to be honest, i would not go as far as to automatically condemn it as a vulgar, mean-spirited game. Yeah, there is some swearing, and you have the OPTIONS to pick up hookers and such, but there is a reason why the game is so highly regarded. It does not glorify killing or stealing, because that kind of stuff is actually what gets you killed or arrested in the game. Knock on wood, the game is actually a tad bit realistic and satirical of our own culture. And if your son is intelligent enough to enjoy it that way and not use it as an outlet for violent tendencies, I would say go ahead and let him play it. But as it implies in your article, it does not look that way, so i can support your decision there.

June 23, 2011 at 11:09 pm
(137) 16 says:

My mom wont let me play this game but I know that none the parents against this game have ever played it. The things that you assume the game is about are all wrong. It is all negative publicity by the media. The media always captures the most negative aspects of anything. You can turn on the news right now and will see more negative than positive. Why? It is more interesting to viewers, and you are the type of viewer who likes to cause a controversy over a FAKE experience that wont change your child.
http://www.pbs.org/kcts/videogamerevolution/impact/myths.html

as you can see this is from public television a viable source. I don’t think that anyone who isn’t a teen yet should play games like this but after then you are exposed to all of it anyway. This game wont change anything. You all complain about the violence yet some of you were the ones who voted for the wars going on in the middle east and killing thousands of our young people. If you can make the decision to send other parents kids into a place where they will most likely die. Then you can let your teen play a harmless game.

June 27, 2011 at 9:59 pm
(138) A 12 year old boy says:

i am a 12 year old and when i was little i played it but my family took it away from me and all i wanted to do was swim and that was all i did but i still think its a bad game but since they took it away i just want to see if you can swim in the new ones and all you people talking about , in my opinion if your kids want to play it you should review it rent it and play it and come to a conclusion and if your kid is mad tell him whats wrong with it BUT IVE NEVER HAD KIDS BUT IM TELLING THE CHILDS SIDE and if a knew gta comes outit makes me want to play it even more and my friends bug me about it but im a good kid so i listen to my guardians.

August 14, 2011 at 3:49 am
(139) The 12 Year Old says:

I am 12 years old and all my friends are allowed to GTA 4. I am a good student and have made honor role twice. All my friends are good people too. My mother does not realy care becouse she does not quite understand these video games (DO NOT JUDGE HER) and my father just does not like how their are young adults (Wich he just assumes off of ONE picture) and how their is sexual content. But I read on another site that you do not HAVE to have sex with strippers (Wich I am mature enough to know about), but on only one mission, wich it does not even show, as it said on the site, as I said before. But I do have Call of Duties, Assassins Creeds, and Halos. On Call of Duty Black Ops, it has many swears, and I have seen plenty of R rated movies, like Silence of the Lambs, Predator, and every Terminator. But what I do not get is the movie Taken is alot like GTA. It has alot of violence, stealing cars, sex related themes, and drugs. And it is only pg-13! And in GTA 4 the main character is actually a good person being forced to do bad things, as my friends have told me about. So I belive that if your child is mature and does’nt laugh every time someone passes gas, then i think they can be able to play this game. So please just comment on this if you think I am mature enough to play.

P.S Their will always be violence and drugs, and you can’t stop it.

August 19, 2011 at 7:22 am
(140) LEGEND says:

Im 17 next month and Ive played GTA and I don’t think it is the game that causes the violence out there. If people are blaming the game so what will the movies count for _ I mean there are many violent movies out there and if you think you will not let your 14 year old play the game and see the movies IM SORRY TO DISSAPOINT YOU BUT THEY WILL ONE WAY OR ANOTHER

August 31, 2011 at 5:36 am
(141) SAM IND says:

In my country INDIA, WE HAVE gta 4 to be a 2 disc game now in 2011. Violence, strong language and ya…prostitution,stripping still prevails……I think in USA its still a 4 disc game………,with all its pevious features…..
but still as pegionline says ita an 18+,then you should not recommend this for your child….

September 30, 2011 at 5:03 pm
(142) D boy says:

Some parents are not smart…..
If your 9 years old, you probably shouldn’t play this game. However, if you have a 15 year old son, and say that he can’t play this game, you’re a MORON. Ask your teenager if he has the ability to buy drugs. ASK THEM! If you think they don’t, once again, YOUR A MORON! Just because they have the availability though, doesn’t mean they’ll buy them. Why, because teens have more common sense then parents think. Hell, teens have more sense then some adults.

That being said, just because your kid plays gta 4, a game that has AS MUCH violence as a rated R movie, doesn’t mean that teens will go outside with a pistol and shoot Barney the Sheriff tomorrow……

October 25, 2011 at 2:43 pm
(143) marion says:

Wow THis has even come all the way to 2011! Well…obviously parents who can’t even teach reality and fake just might as well throw EVERY game away in the house. Like a whole bunch of people say, you should know to teach them fake and reality. Not sit there and complain about how violent it is. Personally, I’m 16, started playing when I was 12. Come on, it isn’t even that bad, its a game. Most parents who complain don’t even try to look at the game. I know when I got GTA San Andreas my mom was very weary, and look at me now. SHe has no worries because I don’t go outside and try to steal cars. Anyways, if you would even try to play it or look at videos of it stealing and such gets you killed or arrested, which in turn gets your weapons and money taken away. Parents these days…..

December 3, 2011 at 6:23 pm
(144) allen says:

bull sh!t screw u thats a total lie i sware u have no clue whats in the game if u dont play it dumb a$$

March 15, 2012 at 2:33 pm
(145) GTArocks says:

You don’t really HAVE to do bad things in Grand Theft Auto. You could drive around the city while listening to the in-games radio if you want.

April 10, 2012 at 10:13 pm
(146) josh says:

You are criticizing grand theft auto and making it sound terrible. It’s a game where you are a criminal that can murder and steal etc. I’m 17 years old and its a great game for teens my age. It’s a good way to live the “criminal life” instead of actually doing it in real life. Now I understand not to give it to a 14 year old, but its a good game to play to live a life as a criminal.

April 28, 2012 at 11:31 pm
(147) Ryan says:

Im 30 and i really enjoy gta4. I think a kid over 10 should play it if he knew the difference between right and wrong and fake and real.i have a kid who got the game at ten,then got out of control. He was talking about shooting people and things like that. So i told him he couldnt handle it and i took the game away. Then gave it back when he was 13. At first i thought he couldnt handle it, then i relized he was learning from it. Yes sounds weird but he was figuring out choices and how what u did affected what happened next. He was no longer talking about shooting and was doing better in school. Yes this is probably a coincidence but i think u should watch him play it at first. Yes there is some bad stuff but most kids that doesnt affect and are just in it to blow off some steam and have fun. It is your opinion but gta4 is a great game. U shoundnt be hating it. Just dont let them play if u think its to bad.

June 10, 2012 at 5:31 am
(148) Robert says:

I am 12 years old and I have been playing games since the age of 3 and I have never once thought of shooting someone,or going on a biligerante rampage I play Grand Theft Auto IV and also shoot guns as a hobby.Gta 4 is a violent game yes ,but you cannot judge a book by it’s cover.I used to play games just like I said at the age of 3…games like Task Force Delta which was pretty old and had bad graphics but was still fun to play.I wasn’t crazy my parents have taught me well I know a gun is a dangerous item when held under the wrong hands but I know how to use one never point it anywhere but up when getting ready to shoot and always have the safety on at all times I also am a proud owner of a heritage arms 22. Single Action Rough Rider Revolver Gta should show your kids right from wrong if you have the right mine set my parent always tell me that I was very mature for my age and now own many violent games but am still very humane and under the sucrcame stances over all I say Yes buy your 14 yearold kid a couple of violent games make sure there older and have low graphics then moniter them and make sure they know right from wrong.

July 1, 2012 at 9:33 am
(149) Cam says:

I am 13 years of age and I live in Australia. Over here (with our different rating system), Grand Theft Auto IV is rated MA 15+ (Mature Audiences). I think of myself as a commonly intelligent person and I am Catholic, but I still enjoy playing Grand Theft Auto games. I have played and completed several GTA games, and not once have I had the urge to hijack cars or attack innocent pedestrians. Over here, guns are not common or normally legal to civilians. I think many people only see the negative in the series, and while the games display inappropriate behaviour, they should be (and are) critically acclaimed for their advanced gameplay, interesting and cleverly written stories, and stunningly designed cities. The horror stories you hear involve people with mental disabililies and I would say anyone under the age of 12 shouldn’t be allowed to play.

July 4, 2012 at 2:48 pm
(150) Addison says:

You guys don’t get it, in GTA you DO get punished for killing people and such, it’s not even realistic at all, if anything, it teaches you NOT to do crimes, but continue the story, the “sexual content” is side quest. GTA is a great example of how a gang is and although is violent, it’s no worse than a rated R movies or MA tv shows. Yeah sure there is gore and such but it’s a GAME. The worst gore is probably decapition. And technically, it’s YOUR fault if they get in trouble because you showed them the game. I’m pretty sure a 14 year old can handle this game, they probably know all the langauge and if they play games like CoD or Wolfienstien for 360 and such, it doesn’t even compare to GTA, wolfenstien is like a billion times worse than GTA.

July 13, 2012 at 4:27 pm
(151) andrew says:

Truly its up to the parent I’m 19 and my mom wouldn’t buy me a rated m game she ever deemed it to violent and I could get into the wrong crowd and such due to the influences of the game. If the child knows the difference between right and wrong especially at 14 I’d say OK why not I have been playing these types of games since I was 10 there’s certainly much worse in the world and on TV then playing Call of duty or GTA. As long as the child’s comfortable playing such games as well as the parent allowing their child to play the game I guess it’d be fine.

July 22, 2012 at 1:59 pm
(152) For says:

I would guess that most children are playing Battlefield, Call of Duty, GTA by age 12.

“There is some concern that playing computer games may be associated with social isolation, lowered self-esteem, and aggression among adolescents. Measures of these variables were included in a questionnaire completed by 204 year eight students at
a North London comprehensive school. Principal components analysis of a scale to assess needs fulfilled by game play provided some support for the notion of `electronic friendship’ among boys, but there was no evidence that game play leads to social isolation. Play was not linked to self-esteem in girls, but a negative relationship was obtained between self-esteem and frequency of play in boys. However, self-esteem was not associated with total exposure to game play. Aggression scores were not related to the number of games with aggressive content named among three favourite games, but they were positively correlated with total exposure to game play. A multiple regression analysis revealed that sex and total game play exposure each accounted for a significant but small amount of the variance in aggression scores. The positive correlation between playing computer games and aggression provides some justification for further investigation of the causal hypothesis, and possible methodologies are discussed.” (Negative correlates of computer game play in adolescents, British Journal of Psychology, John Colwell and Jo Payne)

July 24, 2012 at 6:06 pm
(153) Singapore Fried Rice says:

I’m 14 myself, and I think I have the brains to understand that while I do crazy stuff in the game like flying cars, running people over, shooting people, swimming, stealing, calling 911 as a joke, shooting an RPG into an innocent hospital etc. I don’t think I’ll be doing that in real life, in fact, I’m normal as ever, I play cricket, enjoy playing the piano, go for bike rides, go to the cinema, go to town with my friends, eat Asian Food (KIIIIIMCHIIII!!! RIIIIIIIIIIIIIICE ^.^), sleep, eat food, drink water. I don’t send rockets into buildings and kill those crawling on the floor grasping the little life escaping from a tall ice tea cup slowly.

But I guess it depends, I play it on a Macbook Pro with headphones, others will play it on their TV with full blast. I mean GTA IV is fun I don’t bother going to a strip club or going with prostitutes in the game, you don’t have to. For some it’s an intense emotional funny sad awesome game and for others it’s (activate press stereotypes) BAN IT FROM THE SHELVES YOU DON’T WANT YOUR CHILD TO BE LIKE THIS DO YOU.

I mean like as long as your child/teenager isn’t like 9 years old, has a brain, is reasonable, won’t talk about it at dinner and sicken you, isn’t a pervert that’ll just buy it for the prostitutes, it’ll be fine.

Of course it’ll probably be played in a family household on a fairly large TV unless it’s played on a Laptop or a PC, so you as a parent probably don’t want to see body parts being blown apart and RPGs being shot through a window etc.

It really comes down to how you raised your child and your own morals, and your child’s. I play it fine most of the time I just drive cars and boats and fly helicopters and planes… and call 911 in the game.

But the great thing about GTA IV is the world because if you look at it, it’s probably the most realistic game in the world.

For some, it’s a digusting and sick game, for others, it’s an amazing real life simulator. It’s how you play it which’ll make the difference.

August 22, 2012 at 11:13 pm
(154) a kid says:

This isnt really that bad of a game . You can shoot cops and stuff ,but some teenagers and kids even just play it for the storyline and multiplayer (mostly multiplayer) not a lot of stuff is bad in the multiplayer or campaign but just cursing and some violence however i have call of duty that actually has more cursing for example call of duty black ops 1. If your kid is playing that take that away rather than grand theft auto.

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